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Marriage and Civil Unions: New Zealand Statistics for the Woefully Uninformed

As a follow-on to this post, it would seem that a great deal of opponents to the same-sex marriage bill don’t really understand how statistics work. I’d like to think they do and they’re deliberately twisting the numbers to suit their cause, but I feel that would be giving them a little too much credit.

Garth George claimed in his column that 4% of New Zealanders are “homosexual or lesbian”. Let us pretend, for the purposes of this discussion, that this is accurate (my feeling is that the number of queer people in New Zealand is higher, though there have been no measurements of the number of LGBTIQQA people in New Zealand), and let us also pretend that this 4% are strictly gay or lesbian (so only romantically interested in those of the same gender).

And then someone can explain to me why the difference between 0.61% and 0.17% is apparently justification to continue denying human rights to LGBTIQQA people

YEAR ENDING DECEMBER 2011
Population of New Zealanders 16 years and over: 3,452,100
Population of straight New Zealanders: 3,314,016
Population of gay/lesbian New Zealanders: 138,084
Number of marriages: 20,231
Percentage of marriages per 16+ straight population: 0.61%
Number of same-sex civil unions: 232
Percentage of same-sex civil unions per 16+ gay/lesbian population: 0.17%

YEAR ENDING DECEMBER 2010
Population of New Zealanders 16 years and over: 3,413,600
Population of straight New Zealanders: 3,277,056
Population of gay/lesbian New Zealanders: 136,544
Number of marriages: 20,900
Percentage of marriages per 16+ straight population: 0.64%
Number of same-sex civil unions: 199
Percentage of same-sex civil unions per 16+ gay/lesbian population: 0.15%

YEAR ENDING DECEMBER 2009
Population of New Zealanders 16 years and over: 3,364,600
Population of straight New Zealanders: 3,230,016
Population of gay/lesbian New Zealanders: 134,584
Number of marriages: 21,600
Percentage of marriages per 16+ straight population: 0.67%
Number of same-sex civil unions: 255
Percentage of same-sex civil unions per 16+ gay/lesbian population: 0.18%

YEAR ENDING DECEMBER 2008
Population of New Zealanders 16 years and over: 3,318,300
Population of straight New Zealanders: 3,185,568
Population of gay/lesbian New Zealanders: 132,732
Number of marriages: 21,900
Percentage of marriages per 16+ straight population: 0.69%
Number of same-sex civil unions: 255
Percentage of same-sex civil unions per 16+ gay/lesbian population: 0.19%

YEAR ENDING DECEMBER 2007
Population of New Zealanders 16 years and over: 3,278,100
Population of straight New Zealanders: 3,146,976
Population of gay/lesbian New Zealanders: 131,124
Number of marriages: 21,500
Percentage of marriages per 16+ straight population: 0.68%
Number of same-sex civil unions: 253
Percentage of same-sex civil unions per 16+ gay/lesbian population: 0.19%

YEAR ENDING DECEMBER 2006
Population of New Zealanders 16 years and over: 3,233,000
Population of straight New Zealanders: 3,103,680
Population of gay/lesbian New Zealanders: 129,320
Number of marriages: 21,500
Percentage of marriages per 16+ straight population: 0.69%
Number of same-sex civil unions: 318
Percentage of same-sex civil unions per 16+ gay/lesbian population: 0.25%

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Posted by on August 19, 2012 in LGBTIQQA

 

Yet Another “Opinion” On Same-Sex Marriage

On the Rotorua Daily Post website (which is clearly the pinnacle of journalism) today, Garth George cannot figure out why homosexuals and lesbians (because everyone is either gay or straight) want to be allowed to “marry”.

And no, I’m not putting those scare quotes there. Garth George is.

Garth George can’t seem to comprehend that adopting as an individual, rather than as a couple, is not actually the best option for the rights of the adoptive parents or the rights of the child being adopted.

Garth George states that “by their very nature, homosexuals and lesbians cannot reproduce, except through IVF treatments or by the use of surrogate fathers or mothers”. He conveniently ignores that, once again, there are people who are neither gay, lesbian, or straight who are in committed long-term relationships. He also ignores the fact that there are plenty of opposite-sex* couples who also cannot reproduce except through IVF treatments or by the use of surrogate mothers or sperm donors (who, FFS, are not “surrogate fathers”), and yet we allow them to get married willy-nilly.

Garth George seems to be under the impression that the reason the nice, normal straighties get hitched—sorry, “cleave to one another”— is to “among other things, have children and to bring them up in a traditional family environment”.

Excuse me while I vomit.

Garth George apparently does not know the meaning of “two freely consenting adults”, considering his now overly-tired slippery slope argument—there is clearly no need to acknowledge that Louisa Wall’s Member’s Bill has specifically updated the schedule that contains the list of forbidden relations to cover non-gender-specific incestuous relations. Apparently, we as a nation are incapable of separating same-sex marriage from incest from polygamy. Apparently all these things are directly comparable.

Garth George would like us all to know that “it is disingenuous to complain about rights being taken away when they have never existed in the first place.” I think Garth George should have explained that to the suffragettes of the late nineteenth and early twentieth century, or to those involved in the civil rights movement in the 1950s and 60s. Because, you see, no one can complain about a lack of rights if we’ve never had them in the first place!

Garth George feels that this “is another step in a decades-long campaign to convince everyone that homosexuals and lesbians are no different from the rest of us and deserve all the rights and privileges known to mankind”, which is actually the first correct thing he’s said in the entire article. The difference is, of course, that Garth George doesn’t believe that “homosexuals and lesbians” actually are no different from the rest of us. Garth George doesn’t believe that the queer community deserve all the rights and privileges that we give to heterosexuals.

Garth George has also apparently never met a homosexual who is light-hearted and carefree. I think I can safely say that I would not be particularly light-hearted or carefree if I were forced to have a conversation with Garth George, as it’s surprisingly difficult to remain light-hearted and carefree when talking with someone who sees you as a lesser human being for no other reason than the fact that you sometimes like to sleep with women.

Garth George refuses to wear the appellation of ‘homophobe’ as he has “no phobias about homosexuality, male or female”. And I agree with him; I don’t like the word homophobe, as I have genuine phobias that are not comparable. Garth George is not a homophobe. He is a bigot with poisonous and vile views, who has far too much investment in denying human rights to strangers and far too much interest in relationships that have nothing to do with him whatsoever.

Garth George doesn’t understand male homosexuality. He understands, though, that “it makes homosexuals different from [him] and the rest of heterosexual humanity”.

If the rest of heterosexual humanity is like Garth George, then I want nothing to do with them.

*I hate this term, but I haven’t yet found a better one. If anyone has any suggestions I’d appreciate them.

ETA: New Zealand statistics for the woefully uninformed.

 
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Posted by on August 19, 2012 in LGBTIQQA

 

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Pedophiles on a Plane: The Stuff Comments Edition

Content warning: references to sexual assault of minors

Stuff has an article on their website today about a man who was asked to move after being seated next to two unaccompanied minors in error. As at writing this, we’re at 155 comments and probably counting. Because I hate myself, I read every. single. comment. I recommend that you don’t.

The comments can be broken down into the following groups:

  • Airlines are discriminating against straight white men! (direct quote: “It seems that ordinary heterosexual men are not considered a victim group.” I’d explain societal privilege to you, Chuck Bird #90, but somehow I don’t think you’d be the most receptive of audiences.)
  • But women can be pedophiles too/most children are molested by family so they’re safer next to strangers!
  • What sort of shitty parent lets their child fly unaccompanied? (Uh, my awesome as fuck mother? Because my father lived in Australia? Also what the fuck, why shouldn’t 8/10/12 year olds fly on their own? I used to get the damn bus from Christchurch to Timaru at a very young age; flying’s no different. In fact, I’d argue that it’s probably safer…)
  • If you ask me to move you’d better move me to first class/slander/libel/Human Rights Commission/I WILL SUE YOUR ASS/never flying with Virgin again!!!!!!!!!1!!!!!eleventy!
  • Oh please, how many children are molested on aeroplanes anyway?
  • FUCKING FEMINISM IS RUINING EVERYTHING FOR MEN.

It’s that last one, I think, that’s my favourite. Feminism: eradicating male teachers and chipping away at your right to sit next to unaccompanied eight-year-olds since 1969, cackling madly as we burn our bras and refuse to make you a sandwich as we do so.

 
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Posted by on August 11, 2012 in Rape/Sexual Assault

 

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